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New commune initiative in Europe

We (a group of 7 currently) would like to create a commune somewhere in the southern Europe (Galicia looks like a good place). I suppose this initiative may be relevant for people here. The commune is to be built on the following premise: recreating society based on the scientific method, principles commonly accepted in science and open debate in order to maximise fulfilment and wellbeing of a human life. The above-mentioned premise is the only thing that commune members should agree with. Everything else is to be derived from the premise. However, a commune member should also be open-minded as decision making is based on respectful debates. So be ready to debate on the topics of egalitarianism, antinatalism, veganism, anticapitalism, environmentalism, etc. The reason for wanting to make a shared value system based on the premise is that one of the reasons why communes fail seems to be heterogeneity in…


We (a group of 7 currently) would like to create a commune somewhere in the southern Europe (Galicia looks like a good place). I suppose this initiative may be relevant for people here.

The commune is to be built on the following premise: recreating society based on the scientific method, principles commonly accepted in science and open debate in order to maximise fulfilment and wellbeing of a human life.

The above-mentioned premise is the only thing that commune members should agree with. Everything else is to be derived from the premise. However, a commune member should also be open-minded as decision making is based on respectful debates. So be ready to debate on the topics of egalitarianism, antinatalism, veganism, anticapitalism, environmentalism, etc.

The reason for wanting to make a shared value system based on the premise is that one of the reasons why communes fail seems to be heterogeneity in values. With the proposed method we expect to solve that issue because people tend to do things that they find to be right if there are no obstacles. The reason why we have many different stances on things is because people may think that their stance is correct or someone else's stance is wrong because they based it on a different premise, have different information or a fault in logic. We took into account those three.

The currently proposed government/economic model aims at reducing the amount of work we need to do, so seems relevant to the subreddit.

Government/economic model

No money or private property (to a sensible degree) in the commune. A non-profit organisation (NPO) with commune premise as its goal will be established that is going to own all assets and handle monetary interactions with the outside world. Commune members will be voting on all expenses that are going to be done by the NPO. The vote should be unanimous. If not, an open debate will be held until everyone agrees.

For-profit companies (FPCs) will be created in order to get money from the outside world. FPC should not require members to leave the community (or at least they must agree). The work that has to be done will be kept at minimum (no 40 hour work weeks). Members vote on what FPCs are established and how they operate. Example: a software development company (or some other remote work company), where commune members volunteer to do work. Instead of hiring workers, companies can hire our FPC (no need to pay social tax, multiple people instead of one).

Members are responsible for ensuring prosperity of the commune. Required jobs will be agreed upon together and posted for anyone to perform. Every member decides themselves how much they work and what they do.

By doing some calculations it seems that each member will have to work to earn money only for 8 h per week when all required assets are bought taking into account an equivalent of a median salary brought by each member.

Slack workspace

Here is the link to the commune Slack workspace. Join if this interests you.

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