I think everyone here is in agreement that as it's currently practiced in the US, UK, etc. its pretty horrible for the bottom 80% or so, and is virtually indentured servitude for the bottom 20%. It doesn't have to be this way. Countries like Finland are still a mix of capitalism and socialism, as are the US, UK, etc. Its just a different ratio there. The entire world economy is capitalist, and it's a fact that it's not going away. Trying to get rid of capitalism is as achievable as willing unicorns into existence. What we actually need, in contrast, is actually quite do-able (though not easy, obviously): A realignment of wage differentials and taxes somewhat similar to what we had in the 1950s…where a blue collar/ service industry job could buy you a house & support a family of 4, with vacation time, pensions, etc. And universal healthcare. These things are achievable with the right people being voted into office (Bernie Sanders types) , and by pushing hard for unionizing more workplaces and increasing the bargaining power of those unions (there are some positive trends for this in the past year & is something that we can all actually do something about). And I think groups like this subreddit are a great place for thinking & working collectively towards the goals of the working class…back in the 80s/90s (yes, I'm old) nothing like this existed…there's a lot of potential here.